Friday, November 9, 2007

The White Man Has To Go - If he had only been there in the first place!

Here is a discussion of why “...white Muslims don’t need to make dawah to us in our communities…” and the continued separatist rhetoric in the African American community.

Bad use of the race card here.

I left comments there, and the discussion continues.

8 comments:

Abraham said...

Imam W.D. Mohammed saved my life!
November 10th, 2007 at 4:55 am
The Peace,Mercy,and Blessings of G_d be upon you!

I am very excited about the conversation that Allah has placed between us so called “white” muslims, on Umar’s site, it is a conversation that will link us to our unique role in uniting the concious among humanity. The brief comment I would prefer to make at this time is to help lead us out of the psychological and social maze of, as Imam Mohammed states “a toxic word environment” pertaining to our identity. Imam Mohammed commented recently that we need to immedietly make moves to drop and educate the dropping of the term black and white which are manipulated spiritual terms that have been used to divide humanity by those who historicly and presently profit from that division. “black ” has represented those lost in the blackness of ignorance without guidance, light and human maturity who need to be lead and civilized by the “white” mind who by nature are here to carry that burden. There has been so much pain and destruction on both sides of this dichotomy of illusion.Neither side can survive living up to these definitions our human soul wont allow it. We need healing for our minds and human spirits and change in language and definitions is the medicine. Allah in Surahtul Rahman says that he teaches the Qur’an to the human intellect and then created human kind, Imam Mohammed back in the 70’s stated that “man means mind”, to get a new man out of the fabricated white or black mind is a mission of language. For Example even though the AA comunity was not yet ready, he chose to call themselves Bilalians (which there is an incredible documentary out by the same name) to identify with Bilals legecy of a man up from slavery who now has been positioned as one of the best of humanity and empowered to call all to the Most excellent mode of living and development. We need to anylize our journey as people who have experienced our side of the racial coin and use this methodology from the language of the Qur’an and the balanced internal Logic (Uswa) of our Prophet PBUH to help produce this new mind(man) and reclaim our human form which is what this deen is all about , “do not change the creation/form ALLAh has created”, “Die not except in a state of submission balance and Peace”. I am Thankfull for this venue of discussion and pray for every communities success, and as a student of Imam Mohammed encourage eveyone to get to know his mind, thinking, and method more. You can do this by going to a site that has monthly lectures of his posted, www.newafricaradio.com. His Language saved my life from wasted time wading in baby religious identities and language and I encourage everyone by the will of Allah the same opportunity to get a taste.
I have one beef with you Umar, You stated Imam Muhammed was old and frail, I would beg to differ he has a wife younger than most of ours, business projects to dignify his community of a mogul stature, and a travel schedule that puts some music tours to shame. As-salaamu-alaikum.

Anonymous said...

Salaam 'Alaikum

I would like to hear some more of your intentions w/ this blog, what you want to discuss, etc.

White Muslim said...

Salam Aliakum,

Abraham thank you for you kind words.

Umm Zaid, are you a white muslim looking to organize other white muslims, help support them?

Anonymous said...

Salaam 'Alaikum

Does it matter what race or ethnicity I am? I am a Muslim. Is that alone good enough for you?

I only want to know what the focus and direction is going to be, what kind of things you're going to post, what your intention is. Is that what it's going to come to? The Desis got X, the Arabs got Y, the Black Muslims got Z, so White Muslims got to run out and get A? I'm not even sure that Imam Talib wasn't misquoted.

White Muslim said...

Umm Zaid,

No offense, but if the problem that someone is facing is specific to their demographic, then yes it would matter what ethnicity you are.

Would you have been upset if I were say, starting a Latino Dawah organization, and asked if you were a Latino?
I doubt that most people would be. This is the point I was trying to make with my posts at Umar's weblog.

bingregory said...

Uh, the question being asked here is, are you just making a point in the context of Umar's blog, or do you intend to make something of it? And if so, what exactly? I'm white, so you can let me in on your demographically specific ideas now.

bingregory said...

I've written a bit more about my reactions to Umar's piece which vibes a bit off what you commented there.
http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/11/14-white-muslims-again/

bingregory said...

I've written a bit more about the issues you and Umar have been discussing:

http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/11/14-white-muslims-again/